Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder. Mold lubing to extend the life and operation of your mold, make sure to lube it using beeswax or an antiseize lubricant, as recommended in the mold instructions. A couple of years ago i picked up a lyman 301618 bullet mould for. Paper patched bullets have no lube grooves like a conventional lead bullet. Confederate arsenals making enfield cartridges also used this early pritchett bullet, because it was simple to make, very accurate in any. The paper patch on a smooth bullet is a good way of getting rid of any lead in the barrel if you have been firing gg bullets. Most other nose shapes just punch on through, even on larger animals. Patched bullet have a lower friction and thus a reduced pressure, allowing a little. Mar 22, 2015 lube grooved bullet on left paper patched without the paper on the right one of the issues involved with paper patching is the bullet needs to fit the bore nearly perfectly for best results. From a military perspective, the paper patched bullets were not that popular in the usa, but they. Paper patched bullets were especially popular in europe, and was used in, for example, the british martinihenry rifle and mausers infanteriegewehr mod. For a description of what a top punch is, please see our faq page. Paper patch bullet molds help page 2 shiloh rifle forums. Today i tried paper patching a 165 gr hollow point.
For the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. The paper rides on top of the lands of the barrel, keeping lead fouling to zero and in many ways imparting accuracy that lube grooved bullets might have a hard time duplicating. Paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold. The norwegian army also used a paper patched bullet in the nagant revolver ammunition. The lip of paper extending past the base of the bullet is then twisted together, and may be pushed into a depression cast into the base of the bullet. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. With regard to final bullet to bore size, i have found that i have better luck with slugs that are a little undersized and patched with thicker paper. Some a bit better than others, but most factory chambered rifles can shoot paper patches quite well. The main difference, if i understand whats being said, is that the base plug remains in the mould as the bullets are dropped. We have cut these off and the bullet has the weave of the paper engraved on it. All moulds are prepped, tested,and ready to go, with the last test bullet still in the cavity for your inspection. I think 100% density loads have some effect on obturation, i dont quite understand it though. This bullet started out as a conventional lubed bullet, more or less a loverin design, that i had shot last year and it shot about as well as anything, 4 with full power loads, except the velocities were low, barely 2700 fps if i remember right. Swageop2 by sharps45 2 78, on flickr next photo shows cartridge cases ready for bullet insertion.
Any orders placed on or before the 15th will be shipped within the week. View bullet mold preparation video for proper mold lubrication and smoking. Patched bullet have a lower friction and thus a reduced pressure, allowing a little more powder before reaching maximum pressure. Pretty much any chamber will shoot paper patched bullets. Bullet molds are designed to ease the process of making bullets and producing. The removeable plugs, like lyman uses in their hollow points and hollow bases, require the plug to be taken out each time the mould is opened to release a bullet. Please order in the other features drop down box above. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. My sample is still pretty small on the paper patch and this weekend i hope to get a couple boxes of paper patch bullets through the chrono and into the target. Depends on the final patched diameter you want and the thickness of paper you intend to use.
It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45. Several months ago i had lee precision make up a batch of 30 caliber paper patch gas check bullet molds for me. One of the issues involved with paper patching is the bullet needs to fit the bore nearly perfectly for best results. Important information regarding paper patch bullet molds please read. These are three paper patch using the creedmoor nose. Important information regarding paper patch bullet molds please read due to the variety of casting techniques, temperatures, alloys, etc. So using my ancient lyman harry pope mould for the bullet, i made a former of paper patch with a nice biascut, but produced a few long strips first and then at last. Its a lot less messy, a lube cookie sandwiched between two card wads under the bullet is the traditional way of lubrication, and it works. Printer paper is pretty soft and compresses readily in the bore and more importantly, in the case neck. This allows seating an oversized patched boolit into unsized case neck.
Accessories professional bullet moulds block cavity o inches o mm est. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. Since it was quite calm, the smoky confetti showers were quite evident. Followed by the same questions about how the paper survives in the barrel.
What is the story, am i to conclude that smooth bullets give better accuracy results or does it really matter. If you dont see your desired mold, check out our custom services page. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. On the internet u tube nearly all the clips on paper patching use a bullet that has lube grooves. Most bullets from lee molds can be used as cast without sizing. So during a casting season i always end up with twice as. This means you need to carefully measure the bore of your rifle and then have a custom mold made by one of the many mold makers.
Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110 by tom ball. The baco confetti had large chunks of paper even though the patch used was short by. They all have self centering automatic core pins for the fastest possible molding. Sizers vary and one could experiment with different diameters. Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paper patching. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot accurately. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. Opticsplanet, inc is an authorized us distributor for lyman gunsmith and reloading equipment. Paper patched bullet design software is available from corbin, as well as software that calculates multiple density, multipart bullet weights and volumes, calculates bullet air resistance and bc, and helps you determine the bullet diameter for a given rifling depth and paper thickness. Jul 10, 2008 i am busy making molds to suite my rifle chambers throat measurements. The excess paper at the bottom is then twisted tight against the bottom of the bullet. Accurate bpcr paper patch bullets mississippi gun owners.
All molds for pistol calibers are double cavity to speed casting. Whitworth block for paper patched bullets, accessories. Pritchett bullets paper cartridges for muzzleloaders. So, i thought i would give a quick explanation on the concept and then show my process. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Where is a good place to get the mold and paper that i will need. I speculate that without the airspace in the case the powder immediately behind the bullet acts as a filler and seals the caseneck, throat and bore from blowby gases while the pressures. Cast bullet engineering specialises in hand crafted molds for the hobby caster and are used with standard rcbs, lee commercial or kal handles. How do you determin which is the correct diameter for the bullet to be before paper patching. I prefer to use bullets with the gas check shank but no check.
The paper patch bullets look like they will produce approx. Bullet diameter for 4570 paper patched cartridge shiloh. Unfortunately hunting season is only 9 days here so i. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific. I believe that the paper patch molds for 30 cal are. Whitworth block for paper patched bullets show all the details. Weight variations can also be expected due to the same variations. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. This is all unique to one slick and one paper typebrand. The nra used to call these kind of things kitchen sink loads. We go over a few more basics in our paper patching discussion. These are best for hunting as they do flatten out some.
The paper compresses to hold the boolit firmly without expanding the case neck or compressing the core. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Those bullets didnt shoot well and i gave up on bore size bullets. I wish it were a plain base and a double cavity instead of a single, but the price was right. Good morning, first off, i wouldnt recommend paper patch at all unless you can get with one of these guys here that have figured it all out to help you. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers. Ordering will be disabled beginning august 16th and resume september 1, 2019. Its possible to push a patched bullet faster than a jacketed bullet given the same weight and cartridge. A pp bullet simply has straight sides and the bullet is wrapped with a very thin sheet of paper. Ive been interested in 30 caliber paper patch bullets since the early 70s.
I size the bullets so that when patched the bullet is a snug fit in the throat. These cast well and make very good hunting bullets. This article is about using your lathe and milling machine to make a mold to cast bullets suitable for paper patching. Paper patched bullets should be able to be fired at the same speed as a metal jacketed bullet of the same weight. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets.
I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of these guys here will kick in some help. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Mould blocks are made from durabar 654512 extruded fine grain ductile iron. I patch several different grooved bullets for use with smokeless powder. Lathe boring allows almost any nose design, groove layout or dimension. One is straight sided and the other two are two dimensional. Our precision machined cast iron blocks fit saeco handles. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. Top quality single cavity bullet molds, made to our specifications by well known company. Contact us our business will be closed from august 16 31, 2019 while we take some time off. Obturation is absolutely critical with paper patched bullets.
I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of these guys here will kick in. Paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold rvb. Then the bullet is rolled in the paper, as tight as possible, to the left. Sep 11, 2016 for the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. Note how the upper point of that angle cut is the last to be rolled. A lot of people are curious about paper patching bullets. Next i had mountain molds make a 280 grain mold in. My 21year old son eric and i drew cow elk tags as our second choice in our favorite hunt unit in the bighorn basin of wyoming. Unfortunately hunting season is only 9 days here so i havent been able to test these babies on game. Discharging firearms in poorly ventilated areas, cleaning firearms or handling ammunition may result in exposure to lead and other substances has been found in the state of california to cause birth defects, reproductive harm and. I also bring the paper up the nose so that the paper is in the throat.
Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Due to the variety of casting techniques, temperatures, alloys, etc. Discharging firearms in poorly ventilated areas, cleaning firearms or handling ammunition may result in exposure to lead and other substances has been found in the state of california to cause birth defects, reproductive harm and other serious physical injury. Paper patch bullet molds 2cavity 7 paper patch bullet molds. The width of the paper should be exactly at, or about 110 beyond the bullets ogive, to about 18 beyond the bullet base this allows about a third of the bullet base to be covered with paper at the maximum. I am sure that one could find a pistol sizer that could be used to size down a. Assra forum paper patched bullets smooth or grooved. Photo at far right shows the wrapped paper patched whitworth bullet. Ive had good success with these bullets and am very impressed with the whelens capabilities using paper patched bullets. I have a number of molds that throw bullets with lube grooves, and it would be good if these are useable. In schuetzen, the flat point punches out a nicer hole in the paper and seems to shoot very well. Three hardened dowel pins provide positive alignment in both vertical and horizontal planes. We also have some designs that create hollow point or hollow base lead bullets or are used for paper patch or powder coating.
The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets. I felt that it was the perfect size combination for bore size paper patch bullets. Lube bullets will work in those chambers of course, but there are a few customonly chamber designs that will not shoot, or even chamber, a groove diameter lubed bullet. May 17, 2016 i wrap the paper twice around the bullet, providing. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm.
Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110. The patch is carefully wrapped around the bearing surface of the bullet. Many cbe designs can be made into single, double or triple cavity bullet moulds. Now all this doesnt matter if i am leading up my barrel. Nei lee rcbs saeco and lyman ideal, are companies im familiar with to whatever degree. The paper patch is moistened slightly with water to make it more pliable and slightly sticky. After the patched bullet is sized the waxed patch will look like a ceramic insulator on the bullet. This is the bullet that went to the battlefields of the crimean war with the first model p1853 rifles. Cast bullet engineering cast bullet moulds hand cast. Heavy sprue cutter plate precision ground both sides.